Season 3, Episode 6: Mash Off

The previous episode depicted Finn apologizing and reconciling things with Santana, Britney and their offshoot Glee Club, the Trouble Tones. However, the “here’s what you missed on Glee” guy tells us that “everyone is mad at each other. They just are, damn it!” This established a common Glee theme that would be present throughout the episode: Just telling the audience what to think instead of actually telling stories [1]. Remember that bit where Finn apologized to Brittany and company, and they had a tender reconciliation? Of course you don’t, because the announcer dude said that didn’t really happen. We’ve always been at war with Eastasia.

We begin with Puck doing a voiceover about how much he loves Shelby. This is a shockingly similar voiceover to every other time Puck has liked a girl [2]. Puck tells of how he looks forward to 4th period where Shelby is subbing as an English teacher. This morphs into a Glee Club performance of “Hot for a Teacher”. During this song, Blaine and Mike frequently grab their penises with both hands. Out of all the ways to grab your own penis, this one is the oddest. Think about it and try it at home[3]. Weird, right? They also put microphone stands between their legs and parade around as if these were their members.

That would actually be a terrible penis—just super long and super thin. Who the fuck would want that? It would be horrifying.

There is a funny moment when Mr. Schuester assumes that he is the teacher they are hot for and leaps up yelling “Wow! Awesome!” Thinking quickly on his feet, Puck diffuses the awkward misunderstanding by saying that he just likes Van Halen a lot.

Puck attempts to pursue Shelby, telling her that he loves her and that he wants to be a father to her baby. She spurns his advances because she would lose her job—her job as a Glee Club director that is not paid by the school, but by a third party. Later, Puck confesses to Shelby about Quinn’s plan to get the baby back. This boils to an emotional climax where Shelby yells at Quinn with as much sincerity as she can muster, “I KNOW ABOUT THE HOT SAUCE!” You gotta wonder how Idina Menzel feels about herself. Once, she had original roles on Broadway in hits like Rent and Wicked and now is trying to keep a straight face and be dramatic while saying, “I know about the hot sauce.”

"YES! That's the anger I'm looking for—remember, she put HOT SAUCE IN YOUR HOUSE. And then WROTE YOUR BABY'S NAME ON IT WITH MARKER. YOU MUST FEEL THAT BETRAYAL"

With political savvy akin to Herman Cain, Sue Sylvester runs smear ads against Burt Hummell, a write-in candidate who voters would otherwise not even know about. These ads are ridiculous, claiming that Burt has a baboon heart and is married to a donkey. However, the ads are not intended to be funny. Instead they are treated with outrage and the utmost severity because the people of Ohio eat this shit up (because we are stupid). Kurt storms into Sue’s office yelling,“PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS STUFF! OHIOANS ARE STUPID!” Sue explains that she fights dirty because she has a cause: “I hate the arts and…” This is her only cause. This comes just a few episodes after Sue vowed to abandon her anti-arts platform and make her campaign about health care for people like her deceased sister, who had Downs syndrome. Unreal. We are starting to think that this episode might be an alternate timeline. Sue also brings up that Kurt is going to lose the student body president race because he refuses to go negative, and instead he just campaigns for healthy lunches to fight obesity in the school. This is simply not a thing that happened. Remember what we said about Glee just telling the audience what to think instead of actually telling stories? Fuck[4].

Shelby and Schuester are on good terms and they speak about how they will be going up against each other at sectionals. Apparently, it is just totally cool to enter two teams from one school. Also, weren’t there a few episodes dedicated to a rule about how a team had to have 12 members to compete in a show choir competition? Even with the handful of nondescript extra girls to fill out the Trouble Tones, both teams are quite short. Also, wasn’t the whole point of the Trouble Tones that they gave everyone a chance? Why do they just use the same three girls for every song? Anyway, Shelby and Schuester are concerned about how much their Glee Clubs hate each other, despite being completely congenial last episode. They fear that the kids may be bipolar[5]. They decide to exploit this negative atmosphere and establish a competition between their teams, in order to get ready for sectionals. Finn, now no longer caring about reconciliation, decides the best way to go about this situation is to try to trash talk to Santana. She informs him that he can’t win in this battle of insults because of the toughness she gained from her rough upbringing. Here, Glee writers forgot that they accidentally wrote her father in as a doctor last season. Sorry, Glee. Do you think we are happy that we know this information? We aren’t.

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Before the “Mash Off” contest, the Glee Clubs decide to settle things informally with a game of dodgeball. Everyone participates and it seems to be good fun as people are laughing and running around. It doesn’t appear to be a competitive atmosphere as two players dedicated themselves to wheeling the former football star, Artie, around. Employing a new strategy that, while still poor, makes more sense, the New Directions begin allowing balls to hit them directly in the face without trying to protect themselves at all. After the Trouble Tones win, Santana and a few other girls throw a couple bouncy balls off of Rory’s back. Somehow this makes his nose bleed and Kurt throw a fit. He cannot stand the barbarism of this game that he just fully participated in. Also, shouldn’t he be way more concerned with the danger of these flying leaps through the air?

What the fuck is the point of this dive? Note, that ball is being thrown towards the camera by one of his teammates. There's no earthly reason to dive in front of it.

By the way, those flying leaps are just asking to get hit. You’re on a parabolic flight, your enemy can track your trajectory, and you can’t avoid a ball while in midair, let alone when you’re lying on the ground. Also, how does everyone get hit in the face? Face shots are rare—and frankly, quite foolish. You throw low, that way your opponent has a more difficult time catching the ball. As a side note, if any of you make a Dodgeball movie reference in the comments, we will be very mean to you.

We move to the school presidential debate. Kurt’s motives for running started out as just selfishly wanting to add “school president” to his resume for college applications, but later he appointed himself as a vitally important candidate for future gay students at the school. Then he was anti-obesity, championing healthy lunches. Next, he was praised for never going negative in his campaign, despite yelling about how Rachel needed her jowls airbrushed out of her posters. Now at the debate, he is anti-bullying and anti-dodgeball. He declares that violence is unacceptable. At this point, it’s not even flip-flopping, he’s just going in so many different directions that we can’t even keep track. Britney gives a speech about being anti-tornado. This is incredibly strange because  her campaign started out with her shedding the stupidity label and being all about empowering women. Glee had to shoot this down because it meant that positive attention would be going somewhere besides Kurt. This is the same as when they destroyed the Karofsky storyline when it became more compelling  than Kurt’s. Rachel concludes the debate by endorsing Kurt because he is the only one who never went negative. Oh yea, forget about how he called Rachel a sociopath for wanting to be school president [6].

I really wish someone would have nailed him right in the face with a dodgeball during this speech. That would have been incredible.

The end is really unbelievable even by Glee’s standards. After the dodgeball match, Finn and Santana have another argument in which Finn says “Hey Santana, why don’t you just come out of the closet?” He thinks the reason she is mean to everyone is that she won’t admit that she is in love with Britney. Well, a senate candidate had a niece who over heard this high school student calling another high school student gay, and he decided to base his entire campaign on this. He runs an ad that slams Sue Sylvester for allowing someone who a high school student called gay to be a cheerleader [7]. The ad also doubles as a pizza commercial and features a gavel repeatedly hitting a pizza [8]. Again this seems like it should be played for laughs, but it is met with complete seriousness. Fingers are pointed, tears are shed, and Mr. Schuester, who is not even Santana’s Glee director or connected with her in anyway, is called in for a meeting to comfort her. Also, Burt is there. You know who isn’t there? Her Parents. Or Figgins. COME ON.

Ugh. I think we might be getting over this Santana crush.

After the Trouble Tones slaughter a few Adele songs [9], Santana and Finn argue again. Santana blames him for outing her, while Finn says that “Everyone in the school knows and they don’t care!” This school apparently has made a joint decision to be alternatively accepting and awful toward gays. Last time they were terrible, so it is time to be nice again. It is also time for Finn to get slapped for saying something that someone overheard.

Ok, I'm pretty sure I would let this happen to me and then never wash my face again.

Remember kids, violence is never the answer. Unless the question is “I’m gay and sometimes people aren’t nice to me. In that case, shove people into lockers, intimidate them, and above all: slap the ever loving shit out of them.

Show 9 footnotes

  1. A secondary theme that is evident throughout is stuff not making any fucking sense
  2. Let’s be honest, you don’t need the information on these references. Just go back up to the post.
  3. If you do not have a penis, well, we’re sorry. Just move on to the next joke.
  4. Just Fuck.
  5. No, we’re not going to give any insightful information on Bipolar Disorder. When are you going to learn that we don’t put anything helpful in these footnotes? They’re just an easy way to inject jokes without breaking the continuity of the review. It’s an embarrassingly cheap comedic device, but goddamn if we’re gonna give up on it now.
  6. Just don’t worry your pretty little head about that now. Kurt is perfect. Kurt is perfect. Kurt is perfect.
  7. The ad attacks Sue for lacking family values. In keeping with the shows contempt for Ohio, this should no doubt be the end of Sue’s candidacy. Because Ohioans are stupid, right?
  8. What the fuck?
  9. Why, Adele? Why did you continue to let them cover your music? I’m starting to think that we might not be right for each other.
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  • Anonymous

    Little known fact, the issues of gay rights and obesity are directly rated. Because gay rights just don’t seem as cool when you see fat guys kissing other guys.

    Now, I was not very popular in school, but I actually enjoyed dodgeball. I don’t recall it ever being used as some kind of tool of oppression. Sadly, Freaks and Geeks illustrated the game of dodgeball in this same way.

    My favorite thing lately is that Rory’s whole role in the show has become to have random cultural blind spots and to be impossible to understand. They treat his Irish accent like a deficiency in speaking the English language. Though I’m sure I’m once again missing That Good Ol’ Glee Satire I’ve heard so much about.

    To end on a positive note… I too love Great Lakes beer, though I haven’t had the Christmas Ale.

    • Biestiality

      I’ve never had a bad experience wit dodgeball either. It’s pretty equal opportunity, because even the people who sucked at gym like myself could chuck a ball at people. Other sports had more bullying, mostly by the way of exclusion. 

      Red Rover hurt, though! 

      • pippin

        Every time I see Rory I have to laugh. Not at his acting or his storyline (Finn’s sidekick? Really? Although in all fairness I do think he is a good singer) but because of the way he looks. Look at him in pictures with the rest of the cast. He LOOKS like a high school student. If we had seen a shot of Shelby kissing him it might have raised a few more eyebrows. Shelby kissing Puck? Meh, she’s older than he is but so what. Oops. Forgot.He’s supposed to be 18!

        The rest of the cast just look creepy hanging around the halls of McKinley. Someone should call the police.

        • Biestiality

          Most of the male ‘students’ are almost 30. Finn and Puck and  Mike are.

  • Anonymous

    People who still think the music on this show is how a real singing group does things….have never heard “I Wanna Dance With Somebody” by Afro-Blue (opb Whitney Houston) from The Sing-Off…..Glee is awful.  The music isn’t even music.  How can someone who is as amazing on Broadway as Idina Menzel involve herself with such an unholy piece of shit?

    • malletgirl02

      She is probably getting paid a whole bunch of money, at least I hope she is.

  • Radiuju

    I’m not an athlete, and stopped taking gym as soon as it wasn’t mandatory, but dodgeball was the best part of gym class every time we played it. In elementary school, and high school. The Dodgeball plot was so ridiculous.

    • Anonymous

      So very much so. “I’m going to ban Dodgeball because it’s so evil. I am not, however, going to try and ban football or hockey, even though these sports are both just as violent if not more so.” Kurt didn’t seem to think this through very thoroughly…

  • Alybongo

    One of the things that kills me about this show is how it has the most absurd happenings that are supposed to be comical (except they aren’t really funny) and yet they always try to derive a deeper meaning out of them. Like when Emma’s parents were ‘ginger supremacists’ and that somehow had to do with her OCD. If you’re going to be silly, be silly. Don’t try and make it seem deep and emotional. This show is like a tragicomedy. 

    And apparently I’m supposed to feel bad for Santana? No one should be outed but Santana is one of the biggest bullies on the show. She insults Finn (and just about everyone else) on a constant basis, gave him and Quinn mono, has no problems interfering and breaking up people’s relationships, shows no allegiance to Glee club or her supposed ‘friends’, was involved in burning a piano (a crime, for which no one really received any punishment. Apparently people in Lima aren’t too concerned about arson.), blackmails people, etc. And whenever she does this stuff it’s always played for laughs. But the minute someone says something to her I’m supposed to feel sorry for her? Yeah, it would suck being outed to your entire community (in a plot line that is too absurd for words), but perhaps you should think about that before being a terrible person. Finn didn’t even have the malicious intent for that to happen, whereas Santana has had no problem stomping all over the feelings of other for three seasons. I mean, Finn’s a pretty douchey guy but Santana has consistently been worse. But I’m supposed to feel for her? It just goes to show you the message of Glee:  Bullying is funny. Unless you’re gay. Which apparently gives you license to be a terrible person. But honestly, bullying in Glee is played for yucks except when it comes to gay people on the show. For a show that is about accepting diversity and yada yada yada it sure isn’t being fair.

    • Biestiality

      Yes! Thank you! She’s more cruel than any bully on the show, because she goes straight for the jugular. The extended segments of insults in this episode were probably meant to be funny, but I was uncomfortable. 

    • Lily

      Thank you! After this episode, everyone on Tumblr or on the Internet was like, “Finn deserved it!”, “Finn’s a douchebag!”, “Santana, my bb!”, etc. Really, she’s been a bully since the very first episode and hasn’t changed at all. Her “apology” wasn’t so much an apology as just another way to get in some more insults. And to be quite frank, Finn didn’t really “out” her; he was just talking to her and since she was walking away, the volume in his voice raised slightly and some people overheard it; the person who actually outed Santana was a candidate’s niece (which is a whole other kettle of worms.. I mean, what candidate is supposed to care about that stuff? Oh right, Glee candidates).

      I just don’t have any sympathy for her character. This show sucks.

  • lagarto

    my name is luis and i’m a virgo.

    by that, i mean to imply i’m highly obsessive about… certain things. like hoarding information, for instance. i’m compelled to keep track (mentally or otherwise) of every single website i visit / article i read / scene i watch — just in case.

    i keep magazines and books i haven´t touched in many, many years — just in case. you never know, right? you overlook things and you might miss something very, very valuable. something your life might depend on, someday!

    lately i have come to think watching glee is actually therapeutic for people like me.

    with every passing week, i skip through more and more scenes, feeling less and less troubled about it. no pangs, no what-if’s… just sheer annoyance/boredom. specially when kurt is singing / talking for more than three seconds / making that weird mouth&look combo that makes my soul cringe and just turn its back to the screen and retreat to a very distant place inside of me, leaving my body alone to deal with… that… mouth.

    any chances chris colfer is just an amazing actor and not at all similar to that insufferable–

    so, murphy, brennan, falchuk. thanks for reassuring me week after week that everything’s not lost. you work so hard to show me that not everything is worth obsessing about — actually, some things are meant to be overlooked, missed, forgotten…

    …neglected, despised, made not-so-light fun of (but not bullied. kurt wouldn’t like that.)…

    yes, i still keep a lot of useless stuff i find hard to get rid of. i’m learning to let go. it’s a process.

    at least it seems i drew a firm line at getting attached to annoying, absurd, empty and incoherent sh*t.

    my next goal in this long and lonely road to a better me will be actually deleting all of the previous episodes i might have saved on my hard drives.

  • Major Monogram

    Sadly, Great Lakes beer doesn’t distribute into Missouri (they’re one of probably four good breweries that don’t, the others being Three Floyds, Ninkansi and Yuengling), but if their Christmas Ale is as good as I’ve heard the Edmund Fitzgerald is, very nice choice.

    And to be rather honest, I’ve given up on trying to find things about this show I hate, as it is doing a damn good job of just putting the ball on a tee for me, switching me out all of a sudden for Bubba Watson, and then banging Mr. Titleist 350 yards and a few inches away from the pin.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mark.longden Mark Longden

    I’m done with the show, as of episode 5, but I’m definitely going to carry on reading your reviews, finely done bits of comedy business they are. It’s just not worth even watching it to rag on any more.

  • Biestiality

    I don’t understand why Shelby is still there, since Mercedes and the other two shoved (read: bullied) Sugar out of the picture.

    The sanctifying of Kurt in this episode annoyed the hell out of me. He gave Rachel the cold shoulder until she backed out of the election, and he’s still faultless. And what the hell kind of cause is eliminating dodgeball! That’s almost as stupid as banning tornados.

    Also Santana was totally unbearable. Totally verbally abusive. But it’s okay, because she’s one of the main characters. Totally okay.

  • Monkey’s that Fail

    You know what’d be amazing?  If Omar (from The Wire) just came to Glee and in the background we heard whistling right before Rachel’s face was shot off with a shotgun. 

    • nena

      Oh.my.god. How can we make this happen? Only.. not just Rachel. 

      • Gleekhater

        Lets not exclude Marlo Stanfield from the proceedings either.I’d personally love to see Arnold Rothstein make Kurt choke on a cue ball or have Chalky White go to work on Santana with His Carpentry tools.

    • Major Monogram

      Only if he brings Richard Harrow and Owen Sleater from his new digs in Atlantic City with him.

    • Carey

      You know what’s amazing? I thought the exact same thing while reading this review. Plus the show would finally have a proper gay character.

  • Pizza Bathtub

    When Kurt said he wanted to ban dodgeball…my brain just stopped functioning. I just stood there with my mouth open. Whaaaaat the hell? How is eliminating dodgeball going to do anything?!!? Kids are still going to get bullied! How about pushing for a zero tolerance policy on bullying?? Ugh. Any sort of attachment I had for this show was gone by the end of Kurt’s speech.

  • http://thefutureamerican.wordpress.com Jaycee

    1. Nobody ever had a problem with dodgeball in my school. (Only when we played Wall Ball, and only because I sucked at it.) In fact, nobody ever had a problem with dodgeball in THIS school. If Kurt wants to ban any tool of the oppressors, why not slushies? Or Porta-Potties? Or wearing a uniform outside of practice?

    2. Rachel’s concession speech. All I remember is “Vote for Kurt Hummel. We have to elect Kurt Hummel. Vote Hummel. Vote for Kurt.” We fucking get it, Rach.

    3. I’m not even going to dignity the Puck/Quinn/Shelby/hot sauce retardedness with a snarky comment.

    4. Do you know who in America runs ads the way Sue and her opponent do? NOBODY. American politics may get nasty, but they never get that utterly fucked up.

    5. The Adele mash-up was actually pretty good, compared to the other one, which was merely a mash-up of Hall & Oates and five other words. Of course, Adele is now at the top of the female half of my “Get off my radio before I murder you” list, besting Lady Gaga. (Bruno Mars is at the top of the male half.)

    6. The Santana of the past would never have freaked out about being outed. She would have just said “Yeah, I’m a lesbian, wanna make something of it?” And she probably would have had the sense not to blame Finn for the result, even if he is TV’s biggest dumbfuck other than Brittany. Either way, I don’t feel sorry for her because this would never, ever happen in real life. (See #4.)

    7. Since when is going negative a problem in a SCHOOL election? The person who wins is the person who gives out the best cupcakes. I didn’t see any goddamn cupcakes. My boyfriend’s three-year-old niece has more political awareness than this show.

    8. None of this show’s main writers ever grew up or worked in Ohio. It would be a complete surprise if they ever so much as stopped in the Cleveland airport on a layover. Why hasn’t any state official called for a condemnation of these jackasses?

    • Anonymous

      The thing with Adele is, her music is pretty good. At the very least, it’s missing a lot of the things that make other music so bad. So everyone is embellishing the situation for everything it’s worth. We’re extra proud of ourselves because we like music with no auto-tune and no rampant sexual lyrics, not to mention it’s sung by a plus-size girl. (Adele is another of the many things that all gay men are expected to love.)

      A similar thing happens in the realm of movies: a movie like Inception comes out, and everybody claims they like movies that make them think. Then they don’t feel so bad seeing the most intellectually devoid shit for the rest of the year.

      • Nathan T

        honestly furinto, i got into adele mostly because she was different.  After an entire year of nothing but club jams on the pop charts, it was good to hear something…..anything….that was different from the club jam nonsense of 2010

  • OliverCrlbrg

    This episode was High-lariously terrible actually, I mean if you go by what the writers want to put out there. By having Rachel endorse Kurt (something that is meant to show that Kurt is like, OH MY GOD, JESUS!) the writers unintentionally make Rachel a better person than Kurt. She just gave up something for Kurt, a thing he has never done over the course of the show (Yes there was the Defying Gravity thing, but honestly, Chris Colfer couldn’t sing the song, and the writer invented a shit story-line, so I think everyone agree that it doesn’t count, OK?). So Kurt is by this point to anyone with brain cells a horribly entitled, pompous, pretentious, emotionally manipulative (he refused to talk to Rachel so she, with her horrible mental and emotional problems, would break faster), bullying and awful person with signs of sociopathy and a historonic personality disorder. His attention whoring, camp nature, horrible sense of gawdy dressing (seriously, GIRLFRIEND, get a sense of style) and constant playing the victim would be explained by his having a Historonic Personality Disorder.

    So yeah, this episode proved to me that Kurt is mentally ill. So everyone, it’s OK, we don’t have to get angry over Kurt anymore, he is a seriously ill person who needs to be taken care of because of severe HPI and a developing psychopathy.

    … Wait, oh fuck, we still have to be pissed. He is going back into gay villain terroritory from season 1! Oh fuck, he’ll never stop being offensive no matter how hard you try will he?

    I’m starting to think that Kurt has a lot in common with Bella Swan, i.e. that in another universe they could’ve been these complex, mentally unstable villains with personality and nuances and all that fun stuff, but instead we’re supposed to think of them as heroes… No, just… No.

    Anyone else’s jaw drop at the awfulness that was the cover of Hot For Teacher? I have never in my life encountered such a bad cover, I mean Rocky Horror was absolutely terrible, but at least there you got the feeling that everyone on the show were too stupid to get what the songs were about. But Hot For Teacher? One of the most obviously begging-for-sex songs ever? Glee, you can’t do sex, sex requires honest sincerity that you don’t have, stay the hell away from sex, you’re ruining it for the rest of us! 

    Those political ads.. I would like to say that they were surreal, but surrealism most often implies something positive, so instead I’ll use the word idiotic.

    Also I love Glee’s sudden stance against violence, remember in season 1 how all the guys were gonna beat up Vocal Adrenaline, and that was portrayed as heroic? Or how basically everyone has been in physical confrontation and no one’s said anything before? So real physical violence when someone REALLY can get hurt is A-OK but throwing balls at each other under a game is No-No? Hey Kurt, psst, you know what you are? You are the “Stop Having Fun!” guy! I mean Dodgeball is a time honored tradition of venting your anger at people you don’t like, that is very essential to High School anger manegement! Think of all the real physical violence you’ll cause by taking out the anger outlet a regulated sport provides! Stop telling us not to enjoy our violent activities!

    Why is the Oirish kid still around? I haven’t seen a character more loathed in modern memory, the kid can’t sing, can’t dance (not that he gets the oppertunity) and certainly as hell can’t act. Glee really isn’t hiding that their only purpose is selling iTunes songs anymore, do they? I mean with an Irish character, another demographic! Cause seriously, the only reason Santana suddenly became lesbian was because Glee needed to pull in more demographics and went for the cheap ass lazy way of doing that.

    Hopefully Glee will keep doing this hilariously awful episodes instead of their horrible and terribly boring episodes, it’s more fun for everyone involved that way.

    Flores, signing out.

    • nena

      They basically made Santana a lesbian because a bunch of fangirls went crazy over the idea when it was mentioned in an episode review. Naya is very shrewd. She realized the potential for her career and supported the idea wholeheartedly, pushing for this storyline. 

      Personally, if I were her I would’ve pushed a little gentler, the whole storyline has been written so atrociously so there’s no natural development, just the bizarre ‘landslide’ thing. It’s glee so obviously the writing is dumb, but, personally, I feel a little blame should go to Naya for pushing so hard knowing the fools she works for couldn’t write a nursery rhyme that made sense.

      However, since I have friends who are Naya fangirls I have to say it seems to have worked out well for her regardless.  Extreme Finn hate going on, Naya should be winning awards, life changing viewing… apparently.

      • FloresParaLosMuertos

        Yes, they pandered to an audience… An audience of straight fangirls. I mean I’m not a girl and I’m not straight so can someone PLEASE inform me why straight women get all wet over the thought of two teenage boys or teenage girls making out (Because sex is off limits when it comes to these people, when it reaches that level it stops being hot)? Why do straight women find pleasure in imagining things about their own gender or people who aren’t even attracted to them in any way? What the hell is these people’s problem?

        I hate the attitude of “OMG GEHYZ, SOO CUUUUTE!!!!!!1!!!” I find from women this days. Let me put it this way, what the hell is so cute about guys who’d rather suck dick than lick pussy or girls who’d rather scissor all night than spend a moment with the greatest looking most muscular man ever? It’s just sex people… God, I’m getting angry.

        God fangirl-ism wears me down to my core sometimes, I find that the bahivor of these fangirls is just as annoying and condescending as any fagbasher out there. With fagbashers at least you can just excuse them for not knowing any better but these fangirls? No, they got no excuse. I find them just as uneducated, uncaring and “homophobic” as any fagbasher ever. While one end of the spectrum doesn’t treat us LGBT people as human the other side treats us as small children, incapable of living without them. Cause this “OMG GAY, SO CUTE!” remind me of women and their children… maybe I just answered my own question.

        God I wish that this show and all it’s tiresome fans would just go away.

        • nena

          The straight fangirl obsession with gay and lesbian couples has always baffled me too. The vast majority (but definitely not all) of the Santana/Brittany fans I’ve seen are straight, and pretty much all the Kurt/Blaine fans are. 

          Is there a self hatred issue involved? I don’t know if I would say sex is off limits, considering all the nc-17/r/m rated fan fiction they write. 

          Sigh. The fact I know this info makes me aware that I need new friends. Or glee needs to get cancelled. 

          (I am a fangirl myself at times, just for much, much better shows).

          • FloresParaLosMuertos

            Yes but reading that fanfiction (Yes I’ve read straight fangirls horrible gay fanfiction… what?!) it is obvious that the fangirls don’t write it out of any sexual drive, like most hetero fanfic, it’s written in this weird mushy, flowery, hyperbolic prose that is just insufferable. And let just say it is also obvious that most of the girls who write all that crap don’t really know how gay sex even works, I mean they know the mechanics but not the feelings behind it or the sensation, yadda, yadda, yadda. What I’m getting at is that all fanfiction reads like it is describing straight sex… between members of the same sex. At least lesbian fanfic has some sexual drive behind it, because most writers are male and for some reason men like that sort of thing, but gay male fanfiction is so deprived of sexual urges, gay sex when written by fangirls reads and sounds terribly DULL, there is nothing extreme or provoked by desire, it is all very wish fullfillment-y. Gay sex in fanfiction is always bland as hell, because the girls don’t care for the gender of the characters, even if the character is male, they’ll imagine themselves in his spot. That’s why most fanfiction is heteronormative as hell, even if you have a same sex couple there will always a dominant and passive one to more easily translate into traditional gender roles, because (straight) girls can relate to that, at least when young.

            I stand firm in my belief that when true, real gay sex is portrayed without any sort of playing it up involved, straight people either find in nonthreatning/not arousing/nonsexual or offputting, same way with straight sex and gays. These fangirls wouldn’t find Kurt and Blaine or Santana and Brittany “hot” if they were actually portrayed as something more than what straight society wants them to be and if both couples avoided gender roles (Because seriously this dominance/submissive thing is kinda retarded), these fangirls wouldn’t care.

            Glee will get cancelled after this season, it doesn’t have enough energy to stay alive beyond that, I don’t know if it has enough to stay alive for the rest of the season even

        • Rac

          A straight teenage girl to answer your questions!

          My answer IS…

          No clue. And excuse me, its not just teenage girls. In fact, usually teenage girls only like yoai and shy far away from yuri, while teenage guys get into the girl-on-girl. Brittanna is actually pretty unusual in its regard of major popularity with girls. I think its because girls, as you said, find gay sex to be “cuter” and “sweeter” than hetero sex, which is just dumb. I hate that idiotic stereotype that gay love is somehow stronger and more “pure” than straight love. What is with our society that gays are either evil, dirty perversions of natural sex, or speshul little snowflakes so much more moral and wise then our stupid, bigoted heterosexual asses? Either way, you’re treating them differently than the norm and either way its offensive. Its the equivalent of Magical Negro. 

          Flores once pointed out that gay sex is used for titillation only because the titillated wants their object of masturbation to go back to their respective genders. While I somewhat disagree for guy-on-guy(Any female character brought within a mile of a yoai fangirl’s ship will be brutally slaughtered) when men write bisexual or lesbian female characters it couldn’t be more true. Thirteen from House is a great example. Her bisexuality is made up of three things: 55% Gay jokes, 5% occasional drama and 40% fanservice. Any “relationships” she has on the show with women are purely sexual and never last more than an episode. She had to be “saved” by a man to enter into an incredibly out-of-nowhere and BORING “real” relationship. That’s not diversity, that objectification. And portraying a gay male relationship as perfect, sweet and cuddly so the straight female viewers can go “AWWW!” is not all that much better. 

          Now, I will admit I have a few favorite slash pairings of my own but I’m not the type to go “Those two attractive male characters just looked at each other! I bet they want to screw! Must write crappy fanfic and trash female love interest!” Those people just annoy me. 

          • nena

            (This is really a reply to your 2nd comment, it won’t let me reply to that one.)

            I’m impressed you actually tried reading their fan fiction. You’ve just pretty much answered a question I’ve had for a while. I couldn’t figure out how they would manage to write anything sounding authentic, especially considering how bad straight fan fiction can be. 

            (don’t judge me either, I GET BORED! lol)

          • FloresParaLosMuertos

            I also hate that attitude that gay love someone is non-sexual and “pure”. What does homoSEXUALITY mean to these people? It’s a sexual thing, it’s just asboner driven, male sex lusting, masturbating away your frustration, driven and sweaty-monkey-loving as heterosexuality. You can’t argue that gays are no different thhan straights other then you they decide to bone if you seperate the sexualities and put one on a higher plane for no reason. It’s wish fulfillment, girls thinking that there are men out there who are all gentle and loving and interested in the same way as them and if they are good enough they can turn gay men straight! Because that’s all it’s really about, these girls want the unobtainable, the fruit that’s barely out of reach, like Twilight and their vampires, many girls lust and ship gays because they find them more “noble” and “pure” as you said, and if they’re good enough they can use their conversion therapy powers and soon gay men will be loving them long time.

            That’s the psychology of it all, because guys and lesbians are the same thing, the hope is that you can reach what is just out of your grasp, that these people can go back to their opposite genders, where God meant them to be.

            I feel I’m starting to lose hope in it all, I don’t think you can even write a gay character who doesn’t fall into these stereotypes anymore, I just know that those stories exist but because of shows like Glee and Modern FAmily, those scripts were never greenlit. The cultural landscape has jumped back to the sixties, scoeity doesn’t want humanity anymore in gay characters, they want perfect Mary Sues, and I’m just gonna let them have it really, I don’t wanna be lone person crashing the party, and I don’t think gay characters of worth will have resurgance until twenty years or so from now. I find it hilarious that the biggest advances in LGBT rights in decades is accompanied by the biggest regresses in popular culture, the world is in 2011 for gays, in culture, were stuck in 1968, just waiting for that Stonewall Riot.

          • Pas Junior

            OliverCrlbrg, 
            have you watched Brothers and Sisters? Queer as Folk?

        • http://thefutureamerican.wordpress.com Jaycee

          I had a bunch of fangirl friends who were into yaoi in high school. It was 2005, the year same-sex marriage was legalized in Canada, so gay acceptance was just coming into vogue for us around then. Because it was so new, I think they viewed it as the anti-establishment thing to do, kind of a way of poking the stuffy old white guys who recoiled at the thought of homosexuality becoming a mainstream lifestyle. And since they were obsessed with anime regardless, they found a way to combine their two loves, with an dose of explicit sexuality to poke the white guys even more. But it wasn’t just the anime fangirls; we all wanted a gay best friend to go shopping with that year. Perhaps we were ahead of the curve compared to American Gleetards. As for yuri, I think the straight guys who liked to see public displays of lesbianism ended up owning that years earlier and we really didn’t want to get involved.

          Not making any excuses, because it did get tedious after a short while, but if you asked them they’d probably tell you what I just said.

          • FloresParaLosMuertos

            Yes, and I’m still going to think of them as pants-on-head-retarded. No, that’s a bit harsh, but if you for some weird reason find two people of the same sex seriously getting it on arousing, fine, but if you do it because of a fad? Doesn’t that make you a shallow, horrible human being who only accept people when it’s convenient to YOU? So if that is the case, I have even LESS to say. Let me just say that, I’ll stand in a corner and don’t approach till I can calm down, I’m really getting a bit too angry for my own good, because the more I hear, the more I just don’t want to know anymore.

          • http://thefutureamerican.wordpress.com Jaycee

            If it’s any consolation, one of them got knocked up at age 20.

          • Fanficfan1037

            Hey Oliver, thank you for pointing out how so many of the “proactive” glee fans /are/ just doing this because it’s a fad. I had to make a serious personal decision to not hang  around as much with people I interact with who don’t like gay people (who I can’t just avoid) and i did this because I genuinely care for my lesbian friends.

            There are nasty people out there but I would never dream of giving up my friendships for /their/ sakes. Then these fucking gleetards have the nerve to call me homophobic.

    • Vince

      I think that the only reason Kurt was so against dodgeball was because someone apparently put magnets in them so they would hit people in the face.

      • FloresParaLosMuertos

        No its because he’s a big buzzkill, he just can’t stand that someone is enjoying themselves enough to not pay attention to him, especially when he’s being extra gawdy and drag queen-y!

    • Biestiality

      Puck and Finn castrate every song they sing.

      • malletgirl02

        I agree with that. Hot for Teacher was so awful I think I blacked that one out of my mine.  Also Finn sounded almost like a robot in his songs.

        • Gage123

          Finn sounds and looks like he is taking a big, hard dump during his songs.

      • Vince

        I actually used to like some of the covers Puck did. Like Sweet Caroline.

    • malletgirl02

      About Defying Gravity. Supposed Chris Coffer wasn’t allowed to sing that song in school because it is a girl song. He claims that none of the girls in his choir could sing a G5. If this is true judging from his singing voice his choir must be terrible if there was no girl who could sing G5. Pretty much every school choir has a army of sopranos who can sing G5 in unison.

      • FloresParaLosMuertos

        And I can attest why he wasn’t allowed to sing it. It IS a girl’s song. That is no discrimination, it is written in a female registry and in vocal training as a male you are supposed to sing notes for male singers, otherwise there is no way the voice teacher can attest what your vocal range or your most comfortable registry is. If he wanted to sing a loud male part that would have been fine, there’s a lot of tenor parts out there, he just wasn’t willing to find any. I can find one in two minutes, every song written for Jean Valjean in Les Miz (Yes that is a Dramatic Tenor role, but the principle remains the same).

        Kurt (I shouldn’t be addressing a fictional character, I know, but this goes out to the Kurtsies as well), there’s no discrimination there, you reached a High F once, singing (especially dramatic character singing) is supposed to be natural, you aren’t supposed to SEE how much the vocalists are straining, if you can’t hit the notes with naturalism, it means you can’t sing it, it puts the audience out of the performance if they can see how much the performer is struggling to hit the notes.

        This is maybe Glee’s greatest artistic failure and misrepresentation. Were supposed to accept that these kids have voices skilled enough for Broadway, when they lack training, have no knowledge of vocal registry or musical theory or even seem to be singing with notes in mind. I mean, just take Rachel and Blaine singing “Tonight” from West Side Story, Rachel straining to hit the notes and Blaine just barely getting there, both look absolutely out of place when they have a traditionally written score to juggle. And Rachel’s audition for Maria also ignored if she had the voice needed to sing the Soprano score with ease, but Lea Michele (At least as presented) couldn’t handle the score. I don’t know if she isn’t allowed to sing as it is written, or because she isn’t able, I mean her previous work, Spring Awakening, was lazily written rock opera so I don’t know if she a voice.

        Anyway… Thinking about artistry, I love how Rachel and Kurt seemingly have forgotten that an Acting Academy actually have auditions and entrance tests, something most people need rigerous coaching and preparing months in advance to do. You need monologues prepared, you need to find a zone and you need to analyze your text over and over again and familiarize yourself extensively with the work you choose to perform a snippet (the monologue can only last two minutes) of. So either these kids are just naive idiots that really should avoid New York, or the screenwriters are absolutely incompetet or Rachel and Kurt are just entitled douchebags. All three are true come to think of it.

        Flores, tired of this bullshit, signing out.

  • Brittany

    Has anyone noticed the fact that dodgeball literally didn’t exist in the world of Glee until this episode when it became a violent activity that promotes bullying and needs to be banned? Or did I just miss when it was ever an issue?

    • Anonymous

      In the world of Glee, all sports are violent, bully-promoting activities. Dodgeball is just the latest to be added to the list. Football and hockey are already there, so basketball is probably up next.

      Soccer is probably OK, though, because it will give Kurt an excuse to wear a scarf.

  • Renecharbonneau
    • Renecharbonneau

      Oh and to be clear, I think Glee sucks and I laugh at this article’s claims about how the show handles serious issues.

      • nena

        You would not believe the number of virtually identical articles are out there. 

    • Anonymous

      “I was so mad, I tweeted about it!”

    • Biestiality

      She doesn’t even mention how cruel Santana was to Finn, only how “I, for one, was incredibly mad at Finn and Glee for treating outing so flippantly.”

    • Anonymous

      An interesting point that I found in the related tweets of this episode:
      Does anybody remember when Santana called Kurt out in front of Glee
      club?

      Kurt- “Can we talk about the giant elephant in the room?”

      Santana- “What, your sexuality?”

      Awesome double standard here, as always.

      • Jake Pyjamas

         He had already come out then.

  • nena

    Ok, I stopped watching glee after season 2, I couldn’t watch it once I realized people I knew were actually taking it seriously, so I have to ask… the hot sauce thing is a real storyline? 

    I can’t believe I actually have to ask.

    • Anonymous

      As one of the people who watch the show simply so that they can better enjoy this blog, I can say that yes, the hot sauce thing is real. Quinn also planted some things in Shelby’s house that could have gotten her in trouble, but the hot sauce thing was an attempt at humor, so of course they have to bring it up every time that the scenario is brought up. The biggest problem with Glee is that it does not know where to draw the line between humor and serious. I think I could honestly enjoy this show fully if it didn’t constantly try to make me laugh at serious issues, and at the same time have me try to get something serious out of ridiculous issues. These are two completely different ways of thinking, and it hurts to try and actually swap between the two, so the easiest way to watch the show is with a dislike of both elements.

      • nena

        Ha! I agree completely. Thanks for the info!

  • TmNbN

    I’m personally waiting for this shitty show to end, and for the cast to actually go and do something “worth while”.
    And i know everyone complains that Kurt’s story is overrated, but if you ask me Santana’s just makes me want to shot myself!
    It’s the whole ‘i’m a bully; i tear everyone down, i abuse people constantly, but it’s really because i’m secretly gay and don’t know who to be comfortable with it angst issues! And now i get really upset and try to act vulnerable (unconvingly) so everyone will feel SO sorry for me, even though i’m still a heartless piece of shit that just bitches, bitches, bitch -que crying-’
    Ugh!

    • Biestiality

      Then they write it off as Santana being ‘tough’ and all that crap.

    • Vince

      I actually find her character and Rachel very likable, but als o very INCONSISTENT. They both become nice and lovey-dovey in one episode, then an evil, conniving bitch in another.

      • malletgirl02

        The writing for this show is very inconsistent. Sometimes it is trying to be a black comedy sometimes it a teen drama. Sometimes each  character seems to be in a different genre of TV show in the same episode. Santana and Brittany seem to be in a different show from the others sometimes.

  • Anonymous

    The directors/writers of this show are kind of cruel to these actors. If I were Cory Monteith, I wouldn’t stand for a whole episode’s worth of fat jokes about me (and he’s not even fat…).  And did you know he really got slapped by Naya and didn’t know about it? And it must be embarrassing to have storylines as bad as Chris or Jenna. And all the nose jokes about Lea….and Dianna’s horrible character “development”. And they’re all pretty talented. Too bad…

    • Mxyzptlk

      Some sources have reported that Cory wants to quit, and might not make it to the end of the season. Fox reportedly is unhappy with his attitude.

      • Biestiality

        Suddenly I like him more!

      • Anonymous

        Cue the “Finn Unexpectedly Dies In A Car Crash” veryspecialepisode of Glee.

        • http://thefutureamerican.wordpress.com Jaycee

          And they’ll handle it with as much subtle foreshadowing as any other teen show:

          “Wowee! I led the glee club to victory at Nationals with my impromptu solo performance of a Bruno Mars song! I defied that guy named after a vagina and got a football scholarship to Notre Dame! Rachel says I can put it anywhere after the prom! My parents just bought me an awesome vintage cherry-red Camaro! I’m gonna take it for a test drive and sing ‘Free Bird’ with the windows all the way down so I can beat you all over the head with my happiness! FREEDOM! SWEET, SWEET, MERCIFUL TEEN FREEDOM!” Crash.

      • malletgirl02

        He is probably only staying, so he can fulfill the terms of his contract so be doesn’t get sued.

  • Meg

    Well, to be fair, Brittany’s empowerment campaign was just as stupid, less annoying, but really stupid. I mean, being a woman doesn’t entitle you to a vote, and being a retard should make you a shit candidate, but then again retards are elected in reality, too. Also when people gripe about the not legitimately bad parts of something, it makes the rest look like whiny nitpicks, as in maybe Glee sucks but that Adele cover was very well performed, and a lot of their music is kind of good. Rarely making it to the level of it’s original, but still good.

    • Vince

      This is the only reason I can see why they are still on air. Cause they have a few good covers. But really you can find thousands of covers just as good or bad on the internet.

  • Anonymous

    Another thing about this episode: Santana’s storyline and the fans’ reactions to it were beyond frustrating. She crossed the line of being funny-mean 2 seasons ago. It’s just unfunny and stupid now. She is a downright bully. After her insanely vicious string of insults directed at Finn, he “outs” her. He’s actually just talking to her, and she was already outed by Jacob last season, but whatever….Why were fans so pissed at Finn for this? They go around parading about how it’s okay to be gay, but now Finn is a horrible person for saying that Santana is a lesbian in a public setting. If I were him I would have slapped the hell out of Santana (then again, I’m a girl), then ran home and cried. I think what Finn did was rather nice compared to typical reactions, considering how hurtful and spiteful the things Santana said are. 

    Then we’re supposed to feel so sorry for Santana because everyone knows her secret. I thought the show was about accepting who you are, no matter what others think, so why should it be so tragic that other people know she is a lesbian? I don’t see how what Finn did was cruel if Glee supports gays (as we ALL know, they do.) She’s a lesbian, what’s so bad about people knowing it? 

    Anyways, I thought it was horrible of her to slap him; and man, that looked like it hurt. She has no self control, no care for others, and she’s not even funny anymore. But somehow, critics and fans are raving about how Santana is the queen of Glee and the best part of Glee and the funniest thing on Glee and most interesting character on Glee…but she’s really just a bitch. She likes seeing other people get hurt, only cares about herself, it intentionally cruel, violent, annoying and whiny, and critical. Why do people still feel sorry for her??? Hell, why is this show still running???

    • Vince

      No no no. You got it wrong. Glee only supports gay MEN.

  • Mxyzptlk

    For a girl like Santana, a slap seems like a big underreaction. They should have had her at least throw a punch.

    • Vince

      Or take out those razor blades she mentioned.

  • Biestiality

    I can’t think of any characters in the Glee Club who are actual nice people. Possibly Tina and Mike. You don’t hear much from them. Finn and Brittany are nice enough, I guess, without going out of their way to do anything for anyone else. Everyone else is narcissistic as all hell. 

    • Nathan T

      the reason fin and britttany are nice is because they are stupid.  or that is the link that i made.

    • Vince

      Finn is nice? Do you see the way he treats his girlfriends, friends, step-brothers, mothers, anyone [except Mr. Schue]?

      • Biestiality

        The show sets a very low bar!

      • http://thefutureamerican.wordpress.com Jaycee

        He’s nice until another character does something dumb. Then he speaks for this website. Which, in the Glee universe, makes him a douche.

    • Anonymous

      I think Brittany is bitch who pretends to be “innocent”. Mike and Tina are whiny and selfish. Finn means well, but can be an ass. Sam was nice, but he got “written” off the show. 

  • Anonymous

    An interesting point that I found in the related tweets of this episode: Does anybody remember when Santana called Kurt out in front of Glee club?

    Kurt- “Can we talk about the giant elephant in the room?”

    Santana- “What, your sexuality?”

    Awesome double standard here, as always.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1574440626 Henry Willis Ballard

    CAN SOMEONE PLEASE START “GLEETARD”? IM SO SICK OF PEOPLE SHOWING THEIR “GLEEK PRIDE” AND WORSHIPING THIS….I DONT EVEN…I GIVE UP. I just want ‘gleetard’ to be thing.

  • <3 santana

    Santana is smoking hot.  Glee writing causes me more pain than passing kidney stones, but my Santana crush remains.

  • shipster

    if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a–ah, fuck it.

  • ThisFuckingShow

    So I just watched the preview for next week’s episode and it’s just
    hilarious. Apperently to make Santana feel better about herself the Glee
    club creates a “Lady Music Week” and then they start singing Katy
    Perry’s “I Kissed a Girl” to Santana, a lesbian. And she joins.

    You know, the song that has lyrics like “I kissed a girl just to try it, I hope my boyfriend don’t mind it”, “You’re my experimental game” and “I
    got so brave, drink in hand, lost my discretion”. Because IT’S A SONG
    ABOUT A STRAIGHT WOMAN GETTING DRUNK AND EXPERIMENTING, NOT A SONG ABOUT
    LESBIANS! And while the girls are singing that all the male characters
    look at them like “that’s so HOT!”.

    They couldn’t have possibly chosen a less fitting song for an episode about a lesbian coming to terms with her sexuality. This show really only cares about homosexual men.

    Oh, and Finn sings Girls Just Wanna Have Fun to Santana, so look forward to that.

    • mirrorreflex

      Don’t you know they HAVE TO use a Katy Perry hit song, I’m waiting until they do E.T. my guess is that Blaine will sing it about Sebastian.

    • Anonymous

      Maybe they’ll have him sing it in a dress, like they did in the Gaga episode a while back. Because if there’s anything this show loves almost as much as Kurt, it’s emasculation.

  • Lightbulb

    The only point I will disagree on is the slaughtering of the Adele song, because I quite liked it. Also, I liked the routine. Other than that… Yep, what you just said. 
    I like your reviews because I usually watch these episodes when I don’t have any work to do, which is rare, and in these moments I am mostly sleep-deprived and barely even conscious. They make me happy most of the time, because I only need a few songs, some glitter and Darren Criss’ adorable-ness to brighten my mood – yes, I am very easy to win over, but its my guilty pleasure and yea, my mood is always pretty dark, so. I usually don’t really process the rest of the episode anyway. 
    This week there was very little Darren Criss and a lot of awful songs, except for the Adele one, which I feel the need to defend because I’ve bought it on iTunes and it has carried me through my last french essay – real Adele songs don’t work anymore, they tend to put me to sleep. So yea, it was awful and I should have skipped half of it, but even if she was mostly annoying, Santana still sings very well, and the other girl too. Thank you for pointing all its flaws out, I like reading your reviews after the episode because they allow me to realize what was wrong with it and I can go back to being snobbish and haughty and mock those who like the show instead of admitting I sometimes squee over it. You’re very very right, and you allow me to retain my reputation, and I just wanted to let you know that. I’ll go back to lurking now ! 

    (also, sorry if it doesn’t make much sense, Im crashing on red bull. I think the feelings came through, though. Good job, you guys)

    • Vince

      I look at your name and Despicable Me just pops into my head.

  • Torres89013

    Okay can someone help me understand why this site exists? If you don’t like a show, don’t watch it. Aside from the fact that I am a gleek, I’m also a film/tv major. Success of a show is measured by ratings and fanship. Obviously, people are allowed to express their opinion. I’m not saying Love the show…but the fact is that your helping them out by calling them out. This website is just gonna keep making people watch it (even for the wrong reasons)…all publicity is good publicity. This site feels like its triggered out of anger/annoyance..but full paragraphs on every episode is alittle too much don’t you think?. Before you all go trolling and calling me names, keep in mind that this is my opinion.

    • http://gleesucks.com Chris

      Yeah, we probably should have made that more clear, maybe by writing an FAQ or something. Oh wait, that’s exactly what we did: http://gleesucks.com/about/#faq

      Let me give you the highlights: this is a comedy website. Actually, there’s not much more to it than that. That’s pretty much what we’re about.

      P.S. Note how few names I called you!

    • Biestiality

      I enjoy disliking Glee.  

      There is not much worse than being in a bad situation where no one else will  acknowledge that something’s wrong. 

      Likewise with Glee, I was sick of hearing friends and coworkers raving about a show that was (in my opinion) cliche and terribly written. I didn’t get what they saw in it. I was relieved to find out this site existed, and that other people saw the same glaring flaws that I did.

      I don’t care if watching it brings up their numbers. I’m not boycotting it or anything. I watch it because it’s bad enough to be amusing.

      • nena

        There are dozens of us! DOZENS! 

    • Rac

      Teeheehee, you think you’re so smart, aren’t you? Um, “film/tv major,” you do realize how easy it is to pirate TV shows, don’t you? When I watch the show so I can enjoy the blog, I watch it on Megavideo. They ain’t getting any viewership from us. 

    • http://thefutureamerican.wordpress.com Jaycee

      All publicity is good publicity? So Glee is supposed to revel in the fact that the 20, maybe 30 people who use this site regularly watch it for the sole purpose of pointing out what a dreadful show it is? In the long run, that’s pretty risky for critical reception, wouldn’t you say? People who regularly practice “snark-watching” are a vocal minority, but nonetheless a minority, hardly enough to affect a show’s ratings to any measurable extent.

      • http://gleesucks.com Chris

        To be fair, you’re slightly off on that figure.

    • nena

      Awww you called US trolls on twitter. That’s cute. 

      How exactly does this site promote bullying? 

      • Anonymous

        bul·ly1    [bool-ee]  Show IPA noun, plural -lies, verb, -lied, -ly·ing, adjective, interjectionnoun1.a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people.2.(Informal) an individual who expresses disagreement with Kurt Hummel.

        • Biestiality

          You always make me laugh, Furinto! 

        • nena

          I just choked on my soda. Totally worth it.

        • Changed my name

          What’s funny is that Kurt Hummel was in the informal definition and fits the formal. He has to come out of the closet…as a bully!

          • Anonymous

            True–not to mention that nobody here fits definition 1. We are not harassing any individuals here, we are criticizing a TV show that’s in a position to defend itself (and it somewhat clumsily has) and the fictional characters who populate the show. There’s never been any racism or ableism here–there’s been the occasional homophobe but they quickly get dispatched. If anything, we are way more likely to point out the internalized racism, ableism, and homophobia in the show, which there is a lot of. Only a few of us have ever insulted actual people involved with the show, and even then most of the time it’s about their acting/singing/writing skills. If that’s harassment, I hope you find a way to arrest the entire Internet. 

          • Miss Hannigan

            Maybe Ryan Mirthless will come out of the closet as a self-loathing homophobe. That’s the only reason he turned his own Mary Sue into Ernst Rohm.

    • FloresParaLosMuertos

      As Rac pointed were pirating the shit and were not the ones who will affect Glee’s ratings, those are already plummeting because Gleeks are more and more going into desperation over the things they don’t like and how much there is of it. In fact the ratings have been going down since about mid season 2, in fact what will in the end determine if this show gets to stay on air is if it sells iTunes, ratings have nothing to do with the success of Glee, iTunes has everything to do with it.

      • Changed my name

        Their song covers have gotten even worse from the end of season 2 till now. Even gleeks notice how they suck so. Probably not selling very much. God, glee needs to get cancelled, like yesterday.

        • Changed my name

          It’s also hilarious how sad and desperate the gleeks are getting since they can’t even deny the suckiness anymore

  • Changed my name

    I would like to say a particularly big ‘Fuck you’ to glee this week. One of my dear friends from fanfiction was one of the many people who died from the tornadoes that ravaged the East this Spring. Fuck you glee. You think tornadoes are funny? You think people getting killed and losing their homes is funny? FUCK YOU!!!
    This is the final straw, it has been common knowledge that I only watched this show to support Darren but I can’t even do that anymore, this episode is the last. fucking. straw.

    On another note, was i supposed to feel sorry for Santana for getting outed? After she was an absolute cunt to everyone the entire episode? Actually I laughed when she cried and everyone went to comfort her. Karma’s a bitch, bitch.

    I confess that i thought the ‘hot for teacher’ song was perky at least compared to the songs lately. So this is as good as a high point that glee can get for this episode-my last episode. I can’t fucking wait till Darren gets off this fucking abomination.

  • Anonymous

    Question: Would that candidate be allowed to air that commercial? Smear campaigns against other candidates is one thing, but criticizing a private citizen and a minor as a part of that seems like it should be illegal. Even if it was allowed, I bet a lot of voters would be pretty pissed off at him for going after a teenager.

    Also, brilliant 1984 reference. I’ve recently begun quoting that to myself whenever Glee makes a blatant stupid retcon. Snarky minds think alike?

  • Vince

    Okay, I just want to say something about this because all of the harsh comments I’ve been reading about it.

    I think it was very wrong that Santana was outed. However, I do not think it was Finn’s fault, and I hardly think the candidate played a BIG part. While the commercial initially “outed” her, I think that it was very obvious to anyone that uses maybe even 5% of their brain. Not to mention the “private” conversation she had with Brittany about her feelings.

    Santana may be a bitch, but I really feel no one should be outed before they are ready, that’s their decision. And if you feel that I’m tying the term “outing” to homosexuals, I’m not, but this is the 20th century and people still assume everyone is heterosexual unless said otherwise.

    • Vince

      I meant 21st by the way.

  • Mitchell

    This isn’t fun anymore.

    Glee has always been terrible, and Ryan Murphy is a joke of a writer, which most people know. But this is so beyond ridiculous. When this site started, it was funny, because Glee was corny and dumb, and this site pointed it out. Then this site became even more hysterical, throwing sarcasm and analytical views at a horribly-written show got progressively worse and became an even easier target.

    But now, it’s not even worth wasting the time to watch the episodes in order to play along with this blog. I wouldn’t be surprised if Murphy and Company let it get this bad, just so people on this site would grow bored and tired and go away. Based on this season, I would bet money there is more motivation for them to annoy gleesucks.com than to complete a coherent or creative plot line.

    If they won’t cancel it, then might I propose “transitioning” the name gleesucks.com to something that fits better as each glee episode transitions from “sucks” to “fucking stupid?”

    gleeisfuckingstupid.com 

    More thought went into that than an entire episode of Glee.

  • Anonymous

    The stuff going on at Twitter right now is kind of amazing. Somebody referred to you guys as a “retard” (I’m sure Lauren Potter would love that), others still claim to be crying, someone else wants to kill you, and some other guy told you to get a life and a girlfriend (which I find to be quite heterosexist).

    • Vince

      What’s going on at Twitter? Besides the obvious hate I’m reading in your comment.

    • Vince

      What’s going on at Twitter? Besides the hate I’m reading in your comment.

      • Anonymous

        It’s mainly just a giant wave of Gleeks that all discovered the Gleesucks Twitter account earlier today. They’re telling everyone to block & report the account and calling them “haters”, among the other typical things that angry Gleeks say to us.

        http://twitter.com/#!/search/gleesucks

    • nena

      Part of me wants to shove those tweets (metaphorically) in the faces of the gleeks who supported ableism etc by calling it ‘awareness’ and yell “WHERE’S YOUR AWARENESS NOW!!!” 

      Except I’m old enough to know that’s a bad idea. But really, those tweets were perfect examples of everything that is wrong with the show.

      Also, well done Chris and Tim. You responded to each one really well. 

      • Anonymous

        I just have to remind myself that these people are not in any way representative of everyone who watches the show, as evidenced from the fact that it’s the only thing they tweet about. Gleesucks, even though it’s mostly about Glee, has more diverse tastes than they do.

  • ThisFuckingShow

    I love how in the latest episode we are just told that Santana’s parents are okay with her being gay. We don’t see the scene with Santana telling her parents that she’s a lesbian. She just says “I told my parents yesterday and they’re cool with it”.

    And then we had that scene with her grandmother, but that just doesn’t have the same emotional punch that the scene with her parents would have had. Losing her grandmother is just not as bad as losing her parents, so I think I now why the writers did it this way.

    It’s a cop-out way to show that it’s not always like Kurt. By making the grandma the homophobic family member they can still tell the rejection “story” they want to tell, but WITHOUT having to deal with Santana getting kicked out and losing her parents, her home and her financial security (you know, the really interesting parts of a story like this).

    No, this way they can just write ONE scene with her grandmother before moving on to Klaine or whatever it is that the writers are actually interested in. It’s a rejection storyline without actual consequences to it. And it’s just really lazy.

    Also, most of the songs in this episode where offensive in either content or context.

    • http://thefutureamerican.wordpress.com Jaycee

      I love how every scene like this can be summed up as “If only that damned religion were out of the way, there would be no homophobia at all!” (Unless you count the times when it comes from a closeted homosexual.) Did they actually want to make Santana’s grandmother a Hispanic clone of Grams from Dawson’s Creek?

    • nena

      Even the hardcore gleeks have spotted this exact problem.  They aren’t happy.  On that basis I actually watched it for the first time in season 3 (yup, I’m that petty).  It was terrible, for all the above reasons.  Also, I’m unclear about Finn’s role in the whole thing. Or, rather, the writers are and I’m just flummoxed by them.  Did they pass out when they realized they could use a katy perry song (so, so inappropriately) and forget to write more than the title of the episode?

      It was a wonderful reminder of why I found this site to begin with.  I can’t wait to figure out how the fans will eventually rationalize this.

  • ThisFuckingShow

    The latest episode of this show (I Kissed a Girl) apparently pissed off a LOT of people in the gay community (like semi famous blogger Dorothy Snarker: http://dorothysurrenders.blogspot.com/2011/11/out-out-damn-spot.html). Some of them are even submitting their complaints to GLAAD now by going to this link:

    http://www.glaad.org/webform/report-media-defamation

    I saw a few posts about this on tumblr. Fans are PISSED. The post that I saw only has 87 notes (not that many), but it was posted just a couple of hours ago. I also saw people talking about reporting the episode to GLAAD in a few other places (gleeforum.com, Television Without Pity, IMDB). So I think quite a few people are doing this.

    This is the post that I saw on tumblr:

    http://thejollyape.tumblr.com/post/13555658162/glaad-report-media-defamation-glee-edition#disqus_thread

    And this is what the fan is saying:

    - “Whoever submitted this link, thank you. I was silently fuming wonder what to do with all this impotent rage. Sure this might do nothing in the long run, but at least I feel like I’ve done something. Now go and report the latest episode of glee, because not only was it offensive to lesbians and queers, but to women in general. Shit like this shouldn’t be allowed to be put on TV. Not this day and age. So go report them. Tell them how fucking offensive this episode was and perhaps, who knows, it might actually get better.

    There is a saying that, “the world ofter continues to allow evil because it isn’t angry enough”. That works for prejudice and inequality too. So go be angry. Leave a message and show them how pissed off you are. Let them feel the wrath of a scorned woman and the vengeace of a disrespected lesbian. You might not change the world, but it will help lower your blood pressure.” -

    Can you imagine? Getting Glee in trouble with the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation? It would be amazing. So if you have a problem with the way gay characters are portrayed on this show (I certainly do), please take five minutes to report this episode to GLAAD, and explain why shows like this one do more harm than good for gay rights.

  • Anonymous

    http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=687448

    Is it stupid that this kind of upsets me? I don’t want Star Wars mixed with stupid Glee! Even the prequels are better than Glee!

    • nena

      Oh god no. no. nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Also heard a rumour about a beatles episode. Apparently there’s nothing that glee won’t turn to shit. 

      (couldn’t they have just taken jar jar binks?)

      • Anonymous

        Well, they’ve already done some Beatles songs (horribly, of course). But an entire episode of them butchering those songs might be too much for my Fab Four loving heart to take.

        I agree! Jar Jar seems far more suited to Glee! But I just don’t understand why in the world they want Chewie for the Christmas episode. How does that fit?
        … Unless…. unless… oh no, Glee’s Christmas episode is going to be as bad as the Star Wars Holiday Special, isn’t it?!?!?

    • http://thefutureamerican.wordpress.com Jaycee

      Goddammit. Is there anyone Lucas won’t sell out to? Are the Ewoks going to be appearing in Gap commercials next week?

    • pippin

      I just saw pictures of the cast with Chewbacca. My eyes. Cannot unsee.

      Sigh. Damian and his baby face. Every time I see him its like a bell goes off in my head. *real teen-ager alert!* Can’t they see how ridiculous it is with  those other actors  pretending to be in high school?

  • Rac

    I meant to write this up on next week’s recap, but this episode was so fucking (and call me straight-laced but I don’t use language like that lightly) offensive I wanted to punch it repeatedly in the face. And then kick it in the balls. And spit on it. 

    1. Why the hell is Santana being punished for TWO FREAKING (see?) WEEKS for slapping Finn? Yeah it may have hurt some, but even in my super-clean, overly safe, strict highschool you *might* get a day of detention for something like that. Maybe. Also, glad this “no-violence” policy was introduced after two seasons of people getting slammed into lockers and the Glee club threatening their bullies with violence. 

    2. Girls can’t make their own choices when coming out of the closet in a harsh environment, and its TOTALLY okay for her so-called friends to make those choices for her and then pressure her the hell into it if she refuses. Also, her girlfriend should just be stand-offish, smiley and not at all supportive. Let the straight girls and gay guys stand up for her. Gay pride!

    3. THANK YOU, Glee, for making the last openly abstinent  (Except for *maybe* Mercedes, but Quinn was the only one where it was made a point) character suddenly turn into a psycho whore. Making your own choices based on your own values? Nah, she needed a GUY to talk her out of something that two episodes ago she said she totally regretted! 

    4. As others have pointed out, Kurt’s sexuality/coming in terms with parents tale dominated an entire friggin season of Glee. Santana? “I told my parents, and they were totally okay with it!” Plus a scene with her grandmother that was immediately forgotten. No talking it over with her girlfriend or parents. Next scene, all smiles. Jesus, my grandmother was the most important person in my life too and if she said something like that to me I would be bedridden for a week. 

    5. That scene with the rugby guy was about as subtle as tap-dancing koala bear. And incredibly contradictory. 

    6. Some guy singing a slow-tempo “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun” somehow inspired Santana to come out? I gotten more inspiration from Spongebob songs. 

    7. And the thing that REALLY fucking pissed me off? THAT FUCKING SHELBY AND PUCK STORYLINE. EEEEEWWWW! How in EARTH is this being treated as a legitimate dilemma? Considering Rachel’s age, that woman must be at least in her late thirties,  more likely early forties. He’s seventeen. If that was a grown man having a legitimate crisis over his feelings for a teenage girl, including flirting with her, bringing her to his house and touching her leg, he would be (rightfully) treated like an abomination and fired from his job. But no, because she’s a “cougar” it can be treated like a love/sex story and not the story of a complete creeper. 

  • Njhj101

    LOL,Sugar face when santana slapped finn.LOLOLOLOLOLOL

  • Pas Junior

    Well, as far as I’m not wanting to defend Glee, because it has many many mistakes every episode, I think this 3rd season is less worst that the other two and fans should just forget those existed. I read there are new writers this season, and it showed.
    This was the episode I mostly liked. Yeah, Glee is my guilty pleasure.
    About the review, there are some mistakes:
    Everyone is mad at everyone because Finn is just Finn. I think what the preview wanted to show was that the group is still split in two.
    “I know about the hot sauce” is interesting, because is a non-obvious way of telling a thing.
    I agree completely that the camapigns are incredibly lazy and over the top and they don’t work at all.
    About Sue, why can’t she be a person that sometimes is one, sometimes is another? It’s her personality, but yes, she is an easy way to implemente a reboot and conflicts in the series. Well, The Glee Project shows well how the writers are lazy, they want the actors to be the characters instead of create the characters for the actors to portray. Extremely lazy!!!
    About Santana’s father being a doctor… she could had lied for the dentist to give her drugs last season. But this is awfull too because… why a dentist would drug a patient just because her father is a doctor?!
    The whole dodgeball plot is nonsensical.
    Then the weird, comic that’s not comic, campaign again…. Well, I can see why the parents of Santana aren’t there, since this has nothing to do with them, they don’t know if she had told them yet, so the don’t called the parents to not expose her. And I can see how the other candidate wanted to hit Sue. For me, this was the first campaign in Glee that made sense. Because there are a lot of conservative voters that would not vote for a person that’s suspected to be a lesbian.
    The Adele performance and slap were perfect. For me, the best moments on Glee. Naya Rivera was incredible. Finn said “everyone knows”, not “everyone accepts”. But yes, it’s inconsistent the way the school at times accept, at times reject.
    And contrary to what you said about “violence is allowed when you’re gay”, in the next expisode, they show is not well this way, since Santana is threatened to be suspended.

    The worst problem I see is that almost everything that happened in this episode is completely forgotten and the next episodes never show any consequence of what happened in this. Is the worst problem in Glee, the continuity.

  • Pas Junior

    Besides, people love Santana because she is, by far, the best character on the show. Because she always says the truth. I know it’s irrational to defend someone even whn this person is wrong, but this is the effect of- blind fans + one great character (Santana) + all the other characters are inconsistent and bland sometimes. Santana is the only one that’s, even if stereotypically, “bad bullier with good feelings in the deep” all the time.

    • pippin

      There is no best character on this show.

      • Jake Pyjamas

         There is. It’s Santana.

      • Nena

        There’s an argument to be made that there aren’t any characters at all, considering the lack of consistency with the writing. I would agree that they’re all awful though.

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  • Phoebe

    I feel very sorry for Finn. Not the character, but I am very angry at the character, because the character does not have the right to posses such an epic name. 

  • http://twitter.com/EZpeace Alize Simmons

    I can’t even with this episode, it was stupid, lame, and instinctive to the lesbian community
    Apparently it’s okay to out some one against their will, not only that but make it seem like it’s their fault and use that information to bribe them into doing something they don’t want to do. Congratulations Glee, your only continuity is that you continue to be insensitive bastards. And of course they’re going to recycle this plot again in the future, so there’s that to look forward to (note the heavy sarcasm)