Mission Statement (and F.A.Q.)

We enjoy making fun of Glee. People read our posts and thus this website continues to exist. Having said that, Glee is a horrendous show, and here are a few reasons why:

1. The entire premise of the show makes no sense.

The audience is constantly beat over the head with the fact that these kids are unpopular losers. These students are all attractive and talented, but are hated because…they sing pop music? We don’t know what viewers are supposed to do with the numerous scenes when the Glee Club performs and the crowds leap to their feet and just go wild. Aside from this very basic issue, the show is filled with sloppy writing and inconsistencies. The writers seem to have no plan or real idea what they are doing, and just slap a plot together around some songs that they got the rights to. Some examples

Sue Sylvester is an evil character whose main purpose is to destroy the Glee Club, except for the times when she is a good character trying to save the Glee Club.

Prior to last season’s New York finale,  Quinn ominously declared that she had a “plan” for when they all went to New York. Nothing ever happened with this, and it was literally never mentioned again.

Another time, a girl was kicked off the Cheerleading squad and it was a pretty big moment other than the fact that, oops, Glee had written that club out of the show 7 episodes before that.

 

2. Glee frequently claims to be about arts education, but is really all about money.

When the Kings of Leon denied Glee the rights to use one of their songs, Glee creator Ryan Murphy responded by saying (and we quote):

“Fuck you, Kings of Leon. They’re self-centered assholes, and they missed the big picture. They missed that a 7-year-old kid can see someone close to their age singing a Kings of Leon song, which will maybe make them want to join a glee club or pick up a musical instrument. It’s like, OK, hate on arts education. You can make fun of Glee all you want, but at its heart, what we really do is turn kids on to music.”

Thank God that someone is finally making the music of Lady Gaga and Britney Spears accessible to children!

Glee is a glorified cover band, promoting music that is already extremely popular among teens. It is like when a soft drink company advertises a movie on their bottle, and in turn their product is put into that movie. Glee makes tons of money off their albums, and in exchange, Glee gives more exposure to the bands who originally recorded the songs. When Leonard Bernstein did his televised Young People’s Concerts with the New York Philharmonic in the 60′s, that was arts education. He introduced children to great works of art  and the program became fairly popular because he was a genius. It is sad that Glee is able to achieve the same stature by regurgitating the cheapest parts of popular culture and insisting that it is education.

By the way, Glee is filled with the traditional product placement as well.

 

3. Glee is a movement, but in the shallowest ways possible.

Glee has been very effective in forming a community of people who feel defined and validated by the show. A perfect example is a recent email we received:

I love Glee because all my life I’ve been completely tormented and Glee understands what it’s like to be an outcast. When people hate Glee, it’s like they are screaming in your face, “You suck! You are a fake! You’re just a loser!” Glee makes me feel like I’m apart of something, you know? Glee encourages to always like who you are, and you can think what you want- I won’t try to change your opinions, but I hope that you can see why some of us depend on Glee so much. It’s our voice.

More than anything, that email crystallizes what we really dislike about this whole “movement”. Fans tend to use the show to define themselves, and thus they feel that any attack on the show is an attack on them.

To these fans, we say: Don’t let Glee be your voice, because it doesn’t stand for anything. Glee is at its core, simple consumerism. The entire point of the show is to sell, and any kind of art or comedy gets homogenized[1] and pureed[2] into something palatable to the masses.

Beyond that, Glee doesn’t unite, it divides. The two of us didn’t always fit in, and I think that almost everyone can identify with feeling like an outcast. To claim that experience is something unique to fans of the show is silly and dismissive—”not fitting in” is an overwhelmingly common teenage experience. We find it extremely disgusting that Glee takes advantage of these feelings in order to set itself up as a movement representing the “outcasts”.

 

4. Glee has a very narrow view of bullying and discrimination

Glee has been touted as a show that “fights bullying”. While technically true, we would say that Glee does a terrible job at this. Glee’s definition of bullying is as narrow as possible: a big mean jock pushing a gay kid around. They seem to gloss over the bits where Kurt himself is bullying other kids[3]. When you narrow down bullying and discrimination to “don’t use these words” and “don’t do that”, you’ve effectively made a roadmap for racists and bullies[4]. If you want to do a responsible commentary of bullying and discrimination, look below the surface. Maybe don’t have so many terrible, discriminatory statements and acts of bullying in your own show[5][6][7][8][9].

 

5. Glee is touted as a show promoting gay rights, but probably does more to undermine them.

Ryan Murphy clearly was desperate to show a gay character in a positive light. We get that, it makes sense. We’re all in for having normal, accessible gay characters in our movies and TV. However, Kurt is not normal or accessible. They tried so hard to make him a hero, but they forgot to make him human.

Early on in the show, Kurt had two modes: “Asshole” or “Persecuted”. If no one was picking on him, then he was busy being an asshole, and if he was being kicked around, he was suddenly the poor gay kid that people are being mean to for no reason. That was annoying enough, but then the character developed to some sort of diety. Rachel wants a nose job? Everyone tries to convince her otherwise, but she only listens to Kurt. It looks like Kurt is hooking up with Sam? It can’t be, Kurt is perfect. You want to become prom queen? Just bring Kurt back to school, because apparently everyone loves him now.

 F.A.Q.

There are a bunch of questions that we get, and it’s super annoying, so we’re gonna go ahead and answer them here.

Q. If you hate Glee, why do you watch it?
A
. We hate Glee, but we really love writing jokes about it. As it turns out, a lot of people like to read our jokes, so that’s nice too.

Q. Don’t you know that you’re just raising their ratings?
A.
Doubtful. We’re not part of the 0.02183% of Americans tracked by Nielsen, plus we usually don’t watch the show on TV or Hulu. When it comes to Glee, we have no issues with digital piracy.

Q. Don’t you idiots know that Glee is a satire?
A.
We don’t appreciate that kind of name calling, and no, it’s not a satire. People often state that Glee is meant to be a satire, and they often point to Ryan Murphy’s previous project, “Popular” as proof of this. However, Ryan Murphy always meant to have Glee be a completely different show than Popular. To quote the man himself:

“To me, it’s a completely different tone. It’s a completely different show. The thing with Popular was Popular was a satire that made fun of everything else on that network at the time” – HollyWood Chicago interview

So put that in your pipe and smoke it. Who’s the idiot now, hypothetical straw man Gleek?

Q. Don’t you have anything better to do?
A.
First of all, you’re the one reading Glee Sucks Dot Com, so I don’t imagine you spend your time rescuing kittens and teaching math skills to disadvantaged youths. You’re right, though, we do have a lot of better things to do, and we actually do them. However, in addition to those things, we also write this blog.

Here are a list of things that one or both of us do on a regular basis (one or two of which may not be true):

  • Read books
  • Write comedy (it’s not even mostly Glee-related)
  • All the duties that come with the lofty title of “Graduate Assistant”
  • Perform stand up
  • Rock climb
  • Develop Mobile Applications
  • Barbeque
  • Shoot heroin
  • Playing violin
  • Drink beer
  • Listen to Podcasts (we like WTF and Walking The Room, among others)
  • Hunt for buried treasure

If you have any further questions, go ahead and hit the “Contact Us” button, and we’ll get back to you with a snarky response.

Note: Gearing up for the third season, we wrote a new mission statement, since we thought the old one was a bit out of date. If you’re interested in reading the old Mission Statement, or the many comments on it, you can find that here.

Show 9 footnotes

  1. Damon Albarn has some good stuff to say about this
  2. Louis C.K. said in an interview: “Everybody wants to improve the material, so they will comb over it, take out abnormalities,” … “It’s like certain kinds of food: You like them to be chunky and irregular. And they’ll just keeping puréeing and puréeing till it’s perfect, and who the fuck wants it?”
  3. “You smell homeless, Brett. Homeless”, or “I will experience more culture tonight than you will in your entire life”
  4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xedLQwwzPE#t=6m43s
  5. Mercedes: “They try to make me change me eats, tell me I’m gonna come down with diabetes, I say hell to the no
  6. Jacob Ben Israel. We’re just gonna leave it at that.
  7. Trying to “end the R word”, then turning around and dressing up Becky like the Grinch’s dog
  8. Rachel sending Sunshine to a crack house
  9. The Glee guys banding together to physically intimidate Karofsky
  • Vince

    Oh this is easier.

    I’m debating whether I should watch the show or not, so I can follow along. Will that be an issue when you guys post?

    • http://gleesucks.com Chris

      I think our reviews can stand pretty well on their own. There are a few things that you might get lost on, but the ridiculous shit will still be ridiculous.

  • Kevin

    What’s truly sad about Glee is that I’ve been waiting for it to come back on the air so I have this blog to read right after.  It’s the same as when Sarah Palin was shooting her mouth off as VP Candidate and then everyone ran with baited breath to wait to see what Tina Fey would do to roast her.

    Bring on Season 3!

  • Furinto

    Great new mission statement! As usual, I particularly agree with #5. All these factions of the gay rights movement who seem to have no interest in dispelling the stereotypes, or showing the diversity of the gay community, are doing more damage than any senator who wants to amend the Constitution to define marriage as one man and one woman.

    Anyway, that’s my usual rant…

    Really liking the Louis C.K. article you linked, too. Louie is a great example of combining comedy with profound social commentary.

  • Dside

    Glee bragged that they sold more records than elvis…    its easy when you sell compilation cd’s of  massive number 1 hits…  Seriously, Glee needs to stop messing with some of my favorite songs.   

  • Nathan T

    oh yeah, the bitch is back, and so are we!  get em boys!!!

  • Jaycee

    I think all the regulars should list their jobs/courses of study/favorite activities, just to see if the Gleeks measure up when they talk about the lives we lack.

    • Nathan T

      Associate of the high school sports website ihigh.com

      english 103 
      art 110
      religion 110
      Communication 250
      Communication 351

      I am married and my favorite activities are collecting old books, comparing npr to pbs, and working out

      • http://thefutureamerican.wordpress.com Jaycee

        I work at a 24-hour cable news network as a talk show producer. I’m about to graduate with a B.A. in Communications. I blog about U.S. politics, I do some creative writing in my spare time, I’ve been in a relationship for over two years, and I know how to cook.

    • Anonymous

      I’m approximately two and a half years away from a BA in journalism. I just transferred to my current school,so I’m just starting to “have a life” here. I’m keeping busy with volunteer work, ballroom dance club, and I’ll probably join the school paper next semester as well. I also enjoy reading books and I dabble in photography.

      Also, I really like the new mission statement.

      ~ The user formerly known as Erin.

    • Vince

      I am just two years away from getting my BA in marine biology. I have a part-time job, one as a waiter. Once every few weeks, I volunteer at an animal hospital, usually they only take interns, but lucky for me, I’m friends with the M.D.. They usually have me doing laundry, clean cages, etc. I also love games (video, board, and card games), and I read a lot of scientific journals, especially ones about dolphins. I’m also a film-buff.

    • LilBrownAnonymouse

      I attend college classes full time, working towards a double major in creative writing and communications.  I have a group of friends that I go out with at least twice a week.  I’m an animation buff, and I collect comic books.  I also enjoy video games, window shopping, writing (obviously), cooking, and studying languages.

    • Nathan T

      ive noticed alot of communications majors at this site

      • Vince

        I’m not one, but I take a lot of interest in journalism. Mostly scientific journalism, but if you’ve ever read science articles then you could see how weak the writing style is in terms of gaining and keeping interest. I’m hoping to change that.

    • Rac

      I’m too young to have a job, but I’m an honors student with an interest in computer science. I currently take voice and guitar lessons, dance, Girl Scouts, theater sport, participate in my school musicals (including acting as an assistant director for the middle school musical), and chorus. My other hobbies include painting, video editing, cooking and writing. 

    • http://gleesucks.com Chris

      I’m a former high school chemistry teacher, but right now I cook meth for a living.

    • Changed my name

      I’m a Massage Therapist. I write fanfiction when I’m inspired with good ideas (unlike the glee writers) and when that doesn’t happen I read books/fanfiction and watch musicals. I also walk.

    • http://jamoche.dreamwidth.org/ Jamoche

      Software engineer. I once had one of my projects featured in one of Steve Jobs’ WWDC keynotes.

      I also sing in a college choir. Astonishingly, there are no Glee fans there.

  • Quietmarc

    Footnotes! You guys are awesome.

  • Anonymous

    Sup, Meh here. Nice to see you guys updated the place. I can’t really do
    much trolling now because I haven’t seen the newest episodes, but I as
    soon as I get all this history homework out of the way and watch them on hulu…

  • mirrorreflex

    Personally at the start I didn’t think the show was too bad, of course you had suspend your belief a bit when watching, but at least the character’s were consistent. Will used to be a loyal husband who did not want to cheat because he thought it was wrong, Quinn was going through a metamorphosis and becoming a better person etc. Then when the later part of season 1 started they took the ‘monster of the day’ approach, however as this show isn’t designed for kids, rather than monsters they used couples. The finale tied things up nicely though, Finn and Rachel ended up together, Sue changed for good… Then in season 2 they introduced the amnesia plotline you know where Quinn forgot she had a baby, Sue turn evil again and Will forgot he had morals in early season 1, also people who formed friendships like Mercedes and Quinn were no longer friends.

    Anyway just wanted to say I love this blog and I also wanted to recommend these youtube Glee spoofs by SIMGM. One of my favourite lines by Ryan Murphy in the spoof when talking to a fan.
    “Some of the fans wanted continuity:
    “What is continuity? What, is that a song I’ve never heard of?”

    • Nathan T

      im gonna have to disagree with you.  it sucked from day one.  and it continues to suck.  i’m not saying there werent brightspots.  there were never enough of them though.  there’s a four letter word that comes to mind………..tone.  the tone of this show is all over the map.  what comes off as a goofy musical show is interspersed with awkward attempts at melodrama and dark comedy that throws the show into a tailspin.  half the time i dont know whether i should laugh, cry, be shocked, amused, whatever.  its like they never settled on what the show is supposed to be so they do just whatever comes to mind.

      the SIMGM videos are pretty spot on, I’ll give you that.

    • Vince

      Wow. Those spoofs were spot on. And they’re actually funnier than the show.

  • http://twitter.com/movinmetal The Truth

    Just that there actually IS a gleesucks.com website is soothing to the soul. Thank you thank you thank you! Glee does suck…it sucks worse than anything else on TV except for the new “Charlie’s Angels” …oh…wait, yep, Glee is once again the very worst show on TV!

  • Gaiash

    You probably get a lot of fans making the “you just don’t get it” arguments but I think you make good points. I still like the series but you guys are right about so many problems the show has. It’s odd being a fan who agrees with the antis more than the fans.

    Sure I don’t agree with you guys on everything about the show. I really liked the first season and a lot of the songs they perform. But the fact is I tend to agree with you more than the rest of the fanbase especially when it comes to the second season.

    So as a fan let me say something that you might find refreshing. You DO get it. You understand the series just as well as anyone else. I know you already know this but how often does a fan of the show think you guys are right?

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  • Jamie Rees

    Hilarious mission statement, i always enjoy snarky analysis of television, Glee as i’ve have heard and seen is not the most consistent show in terms of quality and entertainment, but it gives a red hot crack at times and i enjoyed season 1 and the start of season 2, but like most promising shows it started to slide. So much so that it’s a shadow of it’s former self, so it’s ripe for mocking and parody. I myself think the show is a bit of a soft target, with the plethora of shitty tv on tap, Glee is at least entertaining pap with pretty decent musical numbers. Yes the arguments are there it promotes commericalism, it’s doesn’t actually help bullying, gay rights, etc it’s compelling but not entirely true, but good if you want to rag on glee. But kudos for this hilarious bit of tv snark, it’s good to know when people arent shooting heroin and drinking they care about quality television.

    • Nena

      I was gonna write a long reply to say there are so many things to disagree with in your comment, but I honestly don’t think you would understand.  Try reading the rest of the site (and it appears that you really need to notice there are footnotes), and then try to defend Glee with references and examples.

      Glee doesn’t help anyone, except the people it makes money for.  

  • Proud Gleek!

    I’m a Gleek and I find this site is hilarious lmao! I figured there’d be a hater site XD!! I LOOOOVE GLEE!!!! “Then why come here and post?? If you love it, then ignore this site and don’t post at all!!” Well I felt like it and wanted to!! I don’t care how many disagree with me lol!! I was just amused when I saw a link to this site lol! I respect your opinions, but all I’m saying is that I love Glee! Nuff’ said lol!

    • Nena

      yawn

  • Harshita kaushal

    I used to HATE Glee. 
    I mean, Rachel is annoying and needy and comes off as a stuck-up little spoilt brat, not an artist. Santana and Brittany are characterless. Quinn is the prissy queen bee who gets everything she wants. And they cover terrible, TERRIBLE pop songs.

    I stopped watching it.
    Then I started watching it again. 

    Rachel is a conflicted, overambitious, immature teenager who IS arrogant and spoilt. Santana and Brittany are still sluts, and I still can’t tolerate them. Quinn acts really uptight, WAS really uptight. But look at how the pregnancy transformed her.

    I think what Glee really highlights with all of their kids getting slushied, or Kurt getting bullied or Quinn getting picked on because of her kid… is intolerance. It DOES talk about individuality, and overcoming peer pressure and standing up for yourself, in the most basic form, so that everybody can understand it. In a world where there is a  crazy amount of pressure to fit in and not stand out, drink alcohol and whatnot, I think Glee has really brought out a lot of issues. Their episode about drinking, for example. 
    You talk about Kurt bullying others. True. But lots of people -his father, Finn and Blaine- pointed that out, going as far as saying he was no better than the ones who bullied him. 

    Songs.
    They cover pop songs, yes, but tell me, would you want to watch a show full of the 40s and 50s? (I would, yes, but anyway) 
    They have The Beatles. Streisand. Judy Garland. Julie Andrews. Lulu. Peter, Paul and Mary. Simon and Garfunkel. Queen. My Fair Lady. Les Miserables. John Lennon.

    So, diss it. I’m not saying don’t. It is consumerism. Capitalism.
    But isn’t it better than Two and A Half Men? Or FRIENDS? I love those, but mindless banter, no?

    • Nena

      Yes, pregnancy transformed Quinn, over and over again. I don’t think you will find anyone who’ll disagree with that.

      Regarding the ‘intolerance’, the show DOES say it helps re-educate people. Unfortunately, in real life, the show fails to actually achieve that goal. A large number of articles written by members of the LGBT, disability etc communities are out there, if you care to look.

      You used the example of the Blame it on the Alcohol, where, other than a hangover, there were no repercussions to their underage drinking; to use Finn as your example is clever, but misses the point.

      When people question Kurt’s behavior, they are immediately branded bullies so that example doesn’t work for me either.

      Songs… well they can keep their pop songs. I would rather not have them butcher anything I actually like.

      I didn’t mind Friends, it was funnier than Glee, was much more consistent and actually had a reasonable grasp of continuity.  No, Glee is not better than Friends, to me at least.

      I never watched Two and a Half Men, so can’t compare it to Glee, but it never tried to convince people it was trying to change the world so it has that in its favor.

  • http://twitter.com/LaraEmilyFoley Lara Emily Foley

    This site is my dream come true. I’ve been looking for a snarky site that tackles Glee in all it’s awful fauxgressive glory. Now I can get all the snark about how fucked up Glee is without having to invest any of the time watching the damn show! THANKS!

  • Anonymous

    I have a senior citizen friend who is an invalid who loves Glee…….sings along to all the songs each week (the ones he knows) and I download them for him on Itunes.  It’s like having a broadway musical delivered to his bedroom each week.  For all of it’s flaws, Glee makes people happy.   People trashed “The Partridge Family” back in the day but that made people happy too.  

  • Anonymous

    I really like this blog and I am a fan of GLEE.  I have to say I agree with all of your criticisms and find them quite witty and accurate.   I am not sure why I am so fanatical about Glee, but I have watched every episode several times and downloaded every song ever recorded.  YET sometimes I cringe when watching the show.  I keep hoping the show will get better.   I pray to God it doesn’t get cancelled now that it has dropped in the ratings.  It’s a real love/hate relationship I have with the show.  I can’t describe it.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HZSBOQHEV23JCV4SWFH7TN6MGA WhatIsSka?

    Glee sucks so does 30 Rock.Make a page about that to. I would but I’m to lazy (stupid shows on TV have rotted my brain).

  • JimmyCrackKorn

    Im so glad I found this website

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  • KimChee

    I can’t bring myself to watch this show.  A bunch of douche bags from the professional program I am in (which is a far cry from communications) watch this.  And Jeffrey if you read this,  you’re not a d-bag (as you would say) however I will use this against you someday, just a warning!

  • Glee Sucks

    I never watched the show, but I hate it just from the facebook statuses from “Gleeks” that I read, plus the moronic way this show tries to cover original songs and just kills them. I respect bands that say no to this garbage show. My favorite band initially turned this crap down, but unfortunately recanted most likely due to the popularity of this shit.

  • http://twitter.com/meek_the_geek Kristina Meek

    Just discovered your blog. I love you. That is all.

  • Rick Jamesson

    Love this blog and its plentiful, damning tirades. :)